BOSNIAN PYRAMIDS

all about pyramids in Bosnia

03.05.2006.

archaeoastronomy.co.uk: Introducing the Pyramid of Doom

While researching to write something positive for the Wikipedia entry on the Bosnian Pyramids (I did the Currently Osmanagić states… to …for future generations bit) I noticed something a bit odd about the map. I wondered if I’d calculated the lengths of the wrong triangle. It seems I have made a simple mistake.

The calculation was based on the three pyramids marked in orange. These three pyramids come close to making an equilateral triangle, though with nowhere near the precision claimed by the Bosnian Geodetic Institute. I got these markers from www.bosnianpyramid.com and you can download them from there to check this for yourself with your own copy of Google Earth. I thought these were the locations of the pyramids and, if you look the map shown at BosnianPyramids.org shows these are the three locations measured. This blog post would also suggest that the Pyramid of Dragon is identified correctly as it places the pyramid on Bucki gaj.

If you look closely then you can see there’s a ridge between the Pyramids of the Moon and the Dragon. I’ve marked the end of that ridge with the label Bosnian Pyramid of Doom, and you can download the Google Earth bookmark to see it for yourself in 3D. Is it high enough to block a line of site between the pyramids of the Moon and the Dragon? No.

But is is a problem. The Pyramid of Doom is on the end of this long ridge. The pyramid of the Dragon is distinctively on its own hill. So how do you make sense of this diagram at Wikipedia, which is used by the official site? I made the mistake of assuming that the Pyramid of the Dragon, being under a large hill, was stationary. It looks like Osmanagić has discovered the world’s first mobile monumental prehistoric pyramid*.

What happens to the triangle if you use the Pyramid of Doom position as the third vertex? Then the Moon - Doom baseline is far, far too short to make an equilateral triangle. It’s not even remotely close, which again suggests that Bucki gaj is the Pyramid of Dragon. It does leave the problem of an imposter pyramid on the official guides though.

Next week it’s the Bosnian Pyramid of the Molehill - and I’m not sure if I’m joking yet.

*This would explain how the Bosnian pyramids got to Egypt and Mexico. In one stroke the lack of Bosnian artefacts is explained as they were built in Visoko and then moved to their new locations. We also now know why the Egyptian pyramids were smaller. You wouldn’t want to move a larger pyramid would you? The Mexican pyramids were even smaller, but then they had further to go.

03.05.2006.

washingtontimes.com: Bosnia may boast Europe's first pyramid


Apr. 28, 2006 at 3:53PM

Experts may be skeptical but an archaeologist's claims he has found Europe's first pyramid began attracting tourists to a town near Sarajevo.
The town of Visoko is home to Europe's only pyramid, or at least that is what a Bosnian amateur archaeologist would like us believe, London's Independent wrote Friday.
Whether the 45-year-old Semir Osmanagic is right or not, he has certainly started a craze.
The man now known as the Balkan Indiana Jones said he believes there are pyramids under two nearby hills as well. "Nature does not make such shapes and they have to be man-made," Osmanagic said.
Teams are digging to see if they will run into stone blocks below the slopes of the hill. Experts from Egypt are expected to join them within weeks.
Meanwhile, a local hotel was named Pyramid of Sun, and a nearby pizza joint serves meals on triangular wooden platters. T-shirts with the imaginary pyramid are sold in the streets.
Osmanagic, whose main qualification is 15 years spent studying pyramids in Latin America, is convinced that under the 2,050-foot Visoko hill is a giant step pyramid, which would be the first discovered in Europe. He says it is 772-feet high, one-third taller than the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt.


03.05.2006.

Neolithic monuments : Silbury Hill UK

Silbury Hill, part of the complex of Neolithic monuments around Avebury in Wiltshire (which includes the West Kennet long barrow), is the tallest prehistoric man-made mound in Europe and one of the world's largest. On a base covering over 2 hectares (5 acres), it rises 39.6m (130ft) high. It is a display of immense technical skill and prolonged control over labour and resources. Archaeologists calculate that Silbury Hill was built about 4600 years ago and that it took 18 million man-hours to dump and shape 248,000 cubic metres (8.75 million cu ft) of earth on top of a natural hill. Every man, woman and child in Britain today could together build such a mound if they each contributed one bucketful of earth.
The base of the monument is 167m (550ft) in diameter and it is perfectly round. Its summit is flat-topped and 30m (100ft) wide. We know that the construction took two phases: soon after work was started, a re-design was ordered, and the mound enlarged. It is constructed in steps, each step being filled in with packed chalk, and then smoothed off. There have been three excavations of the mound: the first when a team of Cornish miners led by the Duke of Northumberland sunk a shaft from top to bottom in 1776, another in 1849 when a tunnel was dug from the edge into the centre, and a third in 1968-70 when professor Richard Atkinson had another tunnel cut into the base. Nothing has ever been found on Silbury Hill: at its core there is only clay, flints, turf, moss, topsoil, gravel, freshwater shells, mistletoe, oak, hazel, sarsen stones, ox bones, and antler tines.
Moses B.Cotworth, at the beginning of this century, stated that Silbury was a giant sundial to determine seasons and the true length of the year. More recently, the writer Michael Dames has identified Silbury Hill as the winter goddess but he finally acknowledges that the monument remains a stupendous enigma.
According to legend, this is the last resting place of King Sil, sitting on a fabled golden horse. Another legend states that the mound holds a lifesize solid gold statue of King Sil and yet a third, that the Devil was carrying an apron of soil to drop on the citizens of Marlborough, but he was stopped by the priests of nearby Avebury.

03.05.2006.

Archaeoastronomy.co.uk: The Bosnian Pyramid = NO!

The Bosnian Pyramid

No.

The Bosnian Pyramid, Visocica Hill, is the first European pyramid to be discovered
No.

New confirmation about findings in Bosnia’s Valley of Pyramids
Bosnian Geodetic Institute (Geodetski Zavod BiH) is confirmed previous findings of the Foundation Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun .
‘If we connect a top of the pyramids (Sun, Moon, Dragon) by drawing a line. We can see that distance is equal. This lines are forming triangle. Sides of the triangle have equal lengths.’
Angles of this triangle are 60 degrees exactly (not any minute difference).
No. Using the map data from the Bosnian Pyramid site I get measurements of Sun –> Moon 2038m, Moon –> Dragon 2229m and Sun –> Dragon 2177m. If the pyramids do form an equilateral triangle then the Bosnian Geodetic Institute seem to have discovered the first equilateral triangle with non-equal sides.
Length of the edges of the Bosnian Pyramid of Sun is 365 metars (???)
No.
Half of the pyramid is under a massive hill. IF there is a pyramid beneath that hill you simply cannot yet measure the sides without making huge assumptions, and the accuracy of 365 metres is utterly spurious. It was remarkably forward thinking of the builders to metres.
Comparisons between the pyramidal complexes in Egypt and Mexico have revealed that the Bosnian pyramid is 220m high; the Great Pyramid measures 145m, while the highest pyramid in the Mexican complex is 75m.
Bosnian explorer Semir Osmanagić, who discovered the pyramidal structure in Bosnia believes that all three pyramids were constructed during the same period, with the Bosnian pyramid the last to be built. Visocica is one third higher than the Great Pyramid in Egypt, which is itself one third higher than that in Mexico. He believes that they could even have all been built by the same peoples.
No.
We cannot date the Egyptian pyramids to the exact year, nor the Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacan, but even if we have error bars of a few centuries then there’s still no overlap. The Mayan pyramids are roughly two millennia older (oops!) younger than the Egyptian pyramids. Add in the lack of Mayan artefacts in Egypt and vice versa and the lack of either in Bosnia and there’s a big problem which hand-waving won’t solve.
As a note the height of the Great Pyramid in Egypt is about 138m, but that’s not the original height because the uppermost stones are missing. The height of the Pyramid of the Sun is about 65m. If the Great Pyramid of Egypt were one-third higher than the Pyramid of the Sun it would be about 87m high. Even with his own measurements there’s no accuracy.
One possible reason for the inaccuracy is that the mapping seems to have been done by M C Escher. Look at the map below from their map pages and see if you can make sense of it.
If he’s consistently talking rubbish about the stuff which can be checked then there’s no reason to assume he’s talking any sense about things which can’t be checked. I’m told there’s a lot of genuine archaeological remains associated with Bosnian history on the hill which could be trashed. A lot of it was already destroyed in the recent war so why would someone want to do this?
Invidual or cooperate donations in a form of cheques or money orders from different countries, can be sent directly to:
Fondacija Arheološki park: Bosanska piramida Sunca
I hope it’s worth it.

03.05.2006.

USA TODAY: Bosnian hill may have pyramid

By Aida Cerkez-Robinson, Associated Press
12/4/2005

VISOKO, Bosnia-Herzegovina — With eyes trained to recognize pyramids hidden in the hills of El Salvador, Mexico and Peru, Semir Osmanagic has been drawn to the mound overlooking this central Bosnian town.
"It has all the elements: four perfectly shaped slopes pointing toward the cardinal points, a flat top and an entrance complex," he said, gazing at the hill and wondering what lies beneath.

No pyramids are known in Europe, and there is no evidence any ancient civilization there ever attempted to build one.

But Osmanagic, a Bosnian archaeologist who has spent the last 15 years studying the pyramids of Latin America, suspects there is one here in his Balkan homeland.

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"We have already dug out stone blocks which I believe are covering the pyramid," he said. "We found a paved entrance plateau and discovered underground tunnels. You don't have to be an expert to realize what this is."

Osmanagic, 45, who now lives in Houston, is personally financing excavations at the Visocica hill, a 2,120-foot hump outside Visoko, a town about 20 miles northwest of the capital, Sarajevo.

He learned about the hill in April from Senad Hodovic, director of a museum devoted to the history of Visoko, which is rich in Bronze Age and medieval artifacts. Hodovic had attended a promotion of an Osmanagic book about ancient civilizations and thought he would like to see Visoko's pyramid-shaped hill.

When the pair climbed the hill, the sweeping view revealed a second, smaller pyramid-shaped hill. It reminded Osmanagic of pairs of pyramids he has seen in Latin America that together create a gateway into a valley.

After obtaining a permit to research the site, which is protected by the state as a national monument, the first probes of the main hill were carried out this summer at six points. Nadja Nukic, a geologist involved in the research, said she found 15 anomalies suggesting that some layers of the hill were manmade.

"We found layers of what we call 'bad concrete,' a definitely unnatural mixture of gravel once used to form blocks with which this hill was covered," Osmanagic said.

"The hill was already there," he added. "Some ancient civilization just shaped it and then coated it with this primitive concrete — and there you have a pyramid."

Small-scale excavations continued until early November, when winter set in, with the work focusing on what Osmanagic theorizes may have been the entrance to a pyramid-shaped temple.

Osmanagic believes the hill was shaped by the Illyrian people, who inhabited the Balkan peninsula long before Slavic tribes conquered it around A.D. 600. Little is known about the Illyrians, but Osmanagic thinks they were more sophisticated than many experts have suggested.

Nukic, who has walked up and down the hill several times, said she noticed symmetrical platforms in the slopes — indentations that Osmanagic believes are steps built into the pyramid.

A local businessman who bought a lot at the foot of the hill and brought in a bulldozer to dig the foundation for a house, meanwhile, unearthed manmade sandstone plates that the archeologists think may have been paving stones.

Anthropologists say the Visoko valley already offers ample evidence of organized human settlements dating back 7,000 years. The town was Bosnia's capital during the Middle Ages, and German archaeologists working the valley recently found 24,000 Neolithic artifacts just three feet below the surface.

Osmanagic is taking a cautious approach about the hill.

"No fast conclusions, please. The evidence has to be firm, at least beyond a reasonable doubt," he said.

"Not that I don't believe in a pyramid here," he added. "This place was always called 'Pyramid' by the local population. But we have to prove that this is not a natural shape."

He thinks, however, that the shape of the hill speaks for itself.

"God can make many things, but such perfectly geometrically formed slopes, pointing exactly toward the north, south, east and west — if he did that, well, that's phenomenal itself."

03.05.2006.

THE ART NEWS PAPER /London/ : Amateur to dig on site of medieval capital in search of Bosnia's own Valley of the Kings

By Lucian Harris

Mayor of Sarajevo and other officials greenlight bizarre and potentially destructive project

Posted 15 April 2006


A Texan businessman says Europe’s earliest civilisation built four pyramids in Bosnia 14,000 years ago


LONDON. The bizarre claims of Semir “Sam” Osmanagic, a Texas-based businessman who believes he has discovered four pyramids at Visoko in Bosnia, are causing serious concern among Bosnian archaeologists and academics as official and popular support mounts for a five-year excavation programme, due to begin this month.

Volunteers have been invited to assist in the excavation of a 2,120-foot hill in one of the country’s most archaeologically rich regions, on top of which lie the protected remains of Bosnia’s medieval royal capital Visoki.

The prospect of their own Valley of the Kings has captured the imagination of many Bosnians desperate for a way to boost the shattered economy and raise the national pride of a country racked by conflict.

Opponents of the project are, however, horrified at the prospect of irreparable damage to an area they believe is important enough to be a tourist attraction without a pyramid, yet warrants further archaeological research. Enver Imamovic of the University of Sarajevo, a former director of the National Museum of Sarajevo, said that the excavations would “irreversibly destroy a national treasure”, while another Bosnian archaeologist told The Art Newspaper that it would be like “letting a group of amateurs dig around Stonehenge”.

Mr Osmanagic, 45, who lives in Houston, Texas, is a Bosnian industrial contractor with a penchant for crypto-archaeology and a taste for Indiana Jones, who has spent 15 years researching pyramids around the world. He was shown Visoko hill by a local museum director in April 2005 and obtained permission to carry out small scale excavations there. Geological and thermal imaging tests as well as the discovery of large stone slabs and tunnel-like holes led Mr Osmanagic to declare that the hill was a man-made pyramid. He ascribed its construction to the Ilyrian people who occupied the area before the Slavs, dating it to 12,000 BC, a conclusion that would make Bosnia the site of Europe’s earliest civilisation.

At the time, Professor Imamovic told reporters that skeletons found near the slabs suggested a medieval necropolis. “People were still living in caves at the time that Osmanagic claims that the pyramids were built,” he said.

Mr Osmanagic has shrugged off such dissent, couching the announcement of the discovery in colourful imagery, renaming the area as the Bosnian Valley of the Pyramids, and four individual hills as the pyramids of the Sun, the Moon, the Earth, and the Bosnian dragon. To co-ordinate the project he formed the Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation, which in January announced a five-year plan of work on the site, including excavation and “reconstruction” and immediate facilities for tourist access.

Mr Osmanagic told The Art Newspaper that the expected budget for the first year was around e300,000 ($358,000). Corporate sponsorship has grown rapidly and a series of promotional events have been arranged for the launch of the excavation on 14 April, set to include a concert by a popular rock group and a series of pyramid-themed art installations.

Meanwhile, Mr Osmanagic’s categorical insistence on the existence of pyramids built by an ancient Balkan civilisation has aroused nationalistic passions that have led critics to fear being branded anti-patriotic. The authors of an online petition to “Stop Osmanagic now!” identify themselves only as a “group of independent intellectuals”. They claim that Mr Osmanagic’s foundation, which is registered as an non-governmental organisation, has close links with the Muslim Party for Democratic Action (SDA), and point out that Zlatko Hurtic, economic adviser to the Bosnian Prime Minister Adnan Terzic, is named as an advisor. They also claim that the project has the backing of SDA politician Hasan Cengic, one of the most powerful men in Bosnia, who has been linked to the arms trade.

The Bosnian media and authorities have been remarkably uncritical, focusing mainly on the prosperity that the pyramids might bring. On 11 March, the Bosnian Federal News Agency ran a letter of support for the project from the mayor of Sarajevo, Mrs Semiha Borovac, who stressed that the discovery would bring money and jobs to Bosnia, and called on the citizens of Bosnia not to interfere with the project in a way that could make it harder “on explorers who are facing a brave and serious task”.

Opponents say that such blind delusion is a symptom of post-war Bosnia. “Our system is to blame, our institutions, which are not doing anything,” said Professor Imamovic. “It is sad that a dreamer is allowed to conduct on-field research without any control. This is the equivalent of letting me, an archaeologist, perform surgery in hospitals.”

03.05.2006.

CNN TRANSCRIPT

S. O'BRIEN: A world wonder hiding under a hill. That's what a team of scientists in Bosnia are looking into right now. The search there for three pyramids has transformed a tiny town. CNN's Chris Burns has our story from just outside of Seriavo.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CHRIS BURNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice over): Bosnian American Sam Osmanagic is an overnight hero in his homeland. In a country devastated by war, the Houston businessman brings hope, claiming he's discovered Europe's first known pyramids, including the world's largest. Having studied Latin American pyramids for 15 years, Osmanagic has mobilized locals here into an army of excavators. Coal miners, grave diggers, farmers, the unemployed. Osmanagic pays about a third of them. The rest are volunteers.

SAM OSMANAGIC, BUSINESSMAN/EXPLORER: All the skepticism will be gone. (INAUDIBLE). They're flying over in the airplane and you see the pyramid walls. What else you can say?

BURNS: Well, some would just say this is just a rock base. It is a mountain. It's got some rock bases.

OSMANAGIC: It can be. It can be. We get the geologists today. Once they see that they're saying it was man-made. It was brought here.

BURNS: And it goes deep underground, too. Osmanagic claims this tunnel leads to three pyramids of the sun, the moon and the dragon. He's got his own pyramid mania headquarters, website and web-cams. With his trademark hat, Osmanagic is revered here as a movie star.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) Indiana Jones.

BURNS: But you're a "Raider of the Lost Ark" here, aren't you?

OSMANAGIC: Yes. It was long lost. Now this here -- the great values here which we're going to show to the world.

BURNS: Souvenir vendors aren't waiting for proof. There are pyramid t-shirts, key chains, wood carvings, postcards. All the hype has fueled its own industry. What was once the Hollywood Hotel is now the pyramid of the sun. All while Osmanagic, armed with satellite imaging, toils to attract donors and neutralize skeptics.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It will be great if it's a pyramid.

BURNS: And what if it isn't?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, that would be a scandal.

BURNS: A Bosnian-American former U.S. soldier, now helping Osmanagic, says even he is skeptical but sees a better good in the effort.

AMER SMAILBEGOVIC, GEOPHYSICIST: I'd rather be digging up here and discovering a pyramid and using all the science in order to find something than looking for mass graves.

BURNS: If anything, the Bosnian Texan has gotten his shattered homeland to think big and to dream.

Chris Burns, CNN, Visoko, Bosnia-Herzegovina.

03.05.2006.

Gabriela Lukacs, first volunteer in Visoko :

Answer to the critics
May 2 2006 Answer to the critics

People keep going to Visoko to help and be part of this unique and gigantic project. This discovery has already changed the image we all have from Bosnia.
There are great people working together hand in hand, with shovel and brush cleaning stones from aeons of dirt, bringing forth a culture with achievements we cannot even image, let alone copy.

No wonder the mainstream archaeologists cannot accept the fact that there is a pyramid under our feet. Built from scratch. With huge breccia stone-plates, neatly put together, over various layers of enormous stoneblocks. A pyramid of 220m height, being the tallest man made construction in the world – so far.
Made by people who did not leave us a written note about it.

The mainstream archaeologists claim their right to investigate the place for Illyrian remains, before this “wild excavation of Mr.O” is allowed to destroy the roman ruins and medieval walls.

Pls.come to Visoko and check yourself that everything is documented carefully. There is a live camera on site for your convenience! And once you are in Visoko pls. go to the local museum. Director Senad will be more than happy to show you hundreds of boxes filled with 24.000 pieces of archaeological excavation done by the german university of Kiel in 2005 in Okoliste near Visoko (see link below for further investigation). The boxes fill the hallway of the museum and need to be analized, documented, mapped, screened and put together. This is the time and place to show your concern, if you really mean it. At least 24.000 objects have been rescued for your qualified studies.

Posted by Gabriela Lukacs, first volunteer in Visoko 11 April 2006


Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel

posted by Butterflies and Bunnyrabbits

03.05.2006.

The Times : 'wacky theories about “hidden mysteries”...'

25, 2006
Bosnia's rich heritage

PROFESSOR ANTHONY HARDING
President, European Association of Archaeologists


Sir, Stories about hidden pyramids in deepest Bosnia being investigated by “hobby archaeologists” (“Indiana Jones of the Balkans”, April 15), may appeal to those for whom the dry facts of archaeology hold little attraction, but they also do little to assist the cause of heritage protection in that beautiful but unlucky country.
Professional archaeologists in the former Yugoslavia, and in international organisations such as the European Association of Archaeologists, have known about these claims for some time, and various “scientific” reports are available in the public domain.
In most countries of Europe those with wacky theories about “hidden mysteries” on presumed archaeological sites are free to propound them but not to undertake excavation, which by its very nature destroys much of what it uncovers; let alone excavation by those unqualified in terms of training and experience.
According to your report there are indeed archaeological sites on the hill in question — Illyrian (Iron Age), Roman and Medieval; yet the work underway or planned makes no mention of what steps will be taken to safeguard them, and other potential sites as yet undiscovered, from inappropriate earthmoving or other investigations.
The situation of professional heritage management in Bosnia-Herzegovina is, since the Bosnian war, in a poor state, with a tiny number of people trying to do what they can to protect their rich heritage from looting and unmonitored or unauthorised development. It adds insult to injury when rich outsiders can come in and spend large sums pursuing their absurd theories (the construction of a colossal pyramid so large that it dwarfs even those of Egypt or Mesoamerica? 12,000 years ago?), in ways that most other countries would never countenance, instead of devoting their cash to the preservation of the endangered genuine sites and monuments in which Bosnia-Herzegovina abounds.

PROFESSOR ANTHONY HARDING
President, European Association of Archaeologists



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